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About Living a Charmed Life
« on: July 04, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »

  • As many if not all of you know up until a couple months ago I was the number one ranked poster of all time on the Way Above Top Secret List on ATS.

    That was until I was banned from the site.

    Up until recently the initial members of ProtoplasmicTraveler.net for the most part have all been friends and confidants, in other words people I have been in private communication with both before my banning from ATS and after my banning from ATS.

    I have discussed with them privately the circumstances of both my banning and the break in to my home and tampering with my computer by what appears to be a shadowy international network.

    More recently a few new members here who don’t know me all that well or well at all have some questions, questions mainly related to the gossip related to the attempted smear campaign by ATS in the wake of my banning in what I would typify as a wrong and misguided attempt to explain the banning in a way that would benefit ATS.

    First I want to state very clearly a break in to my home actually occurred and my computer actually was tampered with and it was absolutely a result of my posting and what I posted on ATS.

    I know this for a fact because it was a fellow ATS Member who both lured me out of my home when the break in occurred and later admitted that my home was broken into and my computer was in fact tampered with as a direct result of him being able to lure me out of my home, so my home and computer would be available for that purpose in my absence.

    This is absolutely no joke and I shutter to think what might have happened had I not actually taken the bait and been at home when the break in occurred. I very well might be six feet under right now, or in jail for putting some one else six feet under for trying to intrude into my home during the wee hours of the morning.

    Regarding the rumor that Bill Irvine and a few members started that I admitted that the whole “Charmed Life Thread” and the events were a hoax: That is an absolute bold faced and shameless lie, one statement I had made as part of a side bar debate with a member to prove a point about that member’s debating style was immediately seized upon by Bill Irvine and taken out of context and purposefully misconstrued so he could declare the thread not a hoax but a farce and attempt to justify my immediate banning.

    First let me say that I had absolutely no reason to do such thing. I simply had nothing to gain by doing such a thing, not only was I already the number one poster of all time, but I had such a large lead over the next closest member there would be absolutely no reason for me to bring a false story to the boards, let alone one about me, let alone one that was such a political hot potato.

    Second I was not given the chance to defend the slander over the out of context comment and how it was being misconstrued because I was immediately and I do mean immediately banned the minute it was seized upon by Bill Irvine.

    In other words Skeptic Overlord was following the thread post by post looking for any reason to shut it down.

    Why? Well, it’s pretty simple my home really was broken into as a result of my posting and what I post on ATS and my computer really tampered with. Boondock-Saint made a similar disclosure with some proof during the thread, and the mystery surrounding Dimensional Detective the former WATS number one poster who suddenly stopped posting without explanation and asked that his WATS Listing be stricken from the list has not been explained honestly or fully by any owner or staff member of ATS let alone by Dimensional Detective.

    In other words the disclosure of what happened to me was simply a public relations and advertising nightmare.

    If people knew and believed that select top posters on ATS are really being targeted and they really are, real time, in the real world, by a real determined organization prepared to break the law to reach it’s goals ATS membership and advertising would all potentially be at jeopardy.

    Here are some things for people to consider regarding my banning.

    First is I placed the thread in the Gray Area a Board for Member Personal Stories (what I disclosed was a personal story about what really happened to me) and that the Board requires little to no proof (I actually provided much more proof for a gray area thread than hardly anyone does, including videos, pictures, and testimony of people on video tape that my home really was broken into and my computer really tampered with). In other words not only is against ATS’s own Terms of Service to Hoax a Gray Area thread it went above and beyond that by then closing the thread and moving it to BTS to a newly created category just for the thread “A Farce on ATS and it’s Members”.

    Why was the thread closed? The reason is why the next day when I realized ATS was going to misconstrue everything and slander me for the sake of it’s own reputation and advertising revenue I contacted them and threatened a law suit if all such slanders were not immediately stricken from the board.

    I remained in Private Contact with Bill Irvine off and on for the better part of two weeks and the fact is that he knows the thread was not a hoax, and it was not a farce, and not only has he stated privately to me that a crime occurred but also banned the member Tristar who lured me out of my house so the break in could occur unmolested by me.

    So why would Bill Irvine ban this other member with 48 hours of launching his own investigation to the Charmed Life Thread if he believed I made up the whole story to hoax or farce ATS? Answer: He wouldn’t.

    Bottom line because the conspiracy originated on ATS and I made it clear I was going to talk about it on ATS and investigate who and all on ATS that might be involved Bill Irvine simply did not want me on the site anymore.

    A business related decision that is his to make as the business owner, however one that really does not work with the “deny ignorance” motto of the site, or its conspiracy related content or membership.

    In addition a post made to my YouTube account responding to one of the videos I shot and posted there about the break in has a comment from a YouTube member who stated that “this is how a well executed psychological operation against a target is conducted, give them the right bait, sit back and watch the whole thing unfold”

    That wasn’t an observation of someone, that was someone gloating. In this case a YouTube member named Tangento1, who at the same time wrote me privately through YouTube from an account that has existed for years without so much as one Video on it, and all but admitted he was Tristar and invited me to connect with him on Facebook to learn more giving me their account name there. In other words this person is simply all over the Internet. 

    The Charmed Life Saga very much continues as within a couple days of launching this site I receive an ominous email regarding it from yet another ATS member of shadowy connections and reputation disclosing a lot of personal inside information about the plot against me, and as usual some coded and cryptic warnings and disclosures, signaling that while I may be off of ATS I am not off the radar.

    If they are to be believed the whole plot against me was designed to either frighten me off the internet or ideally become a paid shill for their own causes.

    I have chosen neither of the above and refuse to be run off the internet or to sacrifice my values, principles and code simply for money or security.

    Where that all leads to, I can not say.

    While I know a bit more today about some of the people involved in the plot to get me off of ATS, break into my home and tamper with my computer and to attempt to run a psychological operation on me, I still do not know the exact make up or origin of this organization and who and what all they may or may not be connected to and may never know.

    I also know that people have to make up their own minds in regards to any event that they hear about in life and it’s impossible to control what other people decide and think. I do know that these events are very real and have really affected me in the most personal way. While many people who followed along with the thread on ATS did so for infotainment reasons or part of some self serving agenda this is all a very real part of my life now that doesn’t stop being real for me because some one not effected by it chooses to disbelieve me or believes me. It simply is what it is.

    A lot of people have concerns about ATS and some of its policies and actions, and its own possible connections to other organizations. This site though wasn’t founded as a bash ATS site, but as a place for me to continue my Internet Writings and to share them freely with others over the Internet without having to any longer have worries about someone else having editorial control or the ability to censor those writings or me.

    I’m happy to answer questions about the Charmed Life thread and what all I know, but the main purpose of this first post in the new Proto’s Place Forum was and is to set the record straight for those who don’t know me so well or hardly at all.

    Thanks,

    Thomas

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2011, 12:04:06 PM »

  • Wow Thomas.  I appreciate your laying this out there.  Brought me to tears really.  Not sobbing lol but just concerned.  It's intriguing for sure, but also scary, not that I have to tell you that.  I was unaware of any of it, until I noticed you were banned a couple of days ago.   

    I read all through the last posts you made and could not find any evidence that you had gone nuts and the site needed to be saved from you. lol Couldn't wrap my head around any possible reason as I had always considered you one of the top notch posters on ATS, but your account certainly explains it.  I decided to google your username in hopes that you had a presence somewhere else on the web and here you are. :)

    I've never gotten a sense in any of your postings that you were anything but genuine, and I do not get a sense at all that this site is intended to bash ATS.  It's the new place in town. :) I'm certainly glad for it.  It will be great to watch it grow and develop.


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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2011, 12:31:32 PM »

  • Thanks my friend, ATS has done a fairly good job of sweeping it under the carpet, and the truth is most Internet Stories and News Items whether they come from the mainstream news or are personal disclosures like the one I made on ATS usually have a shelf life of interest of about 72 hours.

    After that people move on to the next latest event. That serves the Powers that Be rather well, as it’s fairly easy to move on from focus on something like the Gulf Oil Spill or Japanese Nuclear Disaster even though they still very much effect us and should be in the news.

    Since some of the newer members like your self hadn’t heard what happened or had heard conflicting and false stories about what had happened since it did in fact all go down within about 72 hours and then became a taboo subject afterwards I thought I should set the record straight.

    The whole incident is something I am still investigating as best as my limited resources will allow for, and still dealing with on an occasional basis.

    Even though many people had concerns for me after I published the All Roads Lead to Rome thread I never dreamed or at least wanted to believe my internet posting could or would lead to others wanting to stop it or me.

    I was pretty surprised by that and still am to a certain extent.

    The good news is that while some fairly sinister group of people or organization went to a lot of trouble to track me down in the real world, lure me out of my home and break into my computer all as part of a psychological operation is that I am pretty good at separating fact from fiction.

    It’s one of those situations where they hope your own fears as a result will get the best of you and dissuade you or limit you, and I don’t really feel it’s worked out for the parties involved as they had hoped in large part because of me not being intimidated or letting my imagination run wild and get the best of me. 

    I just view it as a new and potentially disturbing yet intriguing element of the information wars going on between the Government(s) and the Powers that Be and concerned citizens who know a crock of bull when they hear it and are prepared to call foul and to attempt to set records and events straight or at least straighter.

    Bottom line is that we have nothing to fear but fear it self and the only way such people can succeed whether they are governments or independent groups or individuals if people succumb to their own fears.

    That which does not kill us only serves to make us stronger, and while I miss a lot of the people on ATS, I know in the long run I will come out of all this stronger, principally because I am no longer hostage to ATS’s control of the platform I use to publish my writings, conspiracies, thoughts and comments on the Internet.

    That which does not kill us only serves to make us stronger, and I feel that despite the unpleasantness involved with the events I will and am emerging stronger and better off for it.

    Thanks for your concern.

    Thomas 

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2011, 12:36:48 PM »

  • Thanks for the info Thomas; that clears up a lot.  I hadn't posted on the Charmed Life thread and hadn't even followed it all that well.  Just one day upon visiting ATS I was really surprised to see that you were banned. 

    I had been doing searching on Google to find out more information as to why you were banned, with only marginal success.  And there wasn't much to go on on your YouTube channel outside of your one comment.  I thought your YouTube channel might be a good source of information and I would periodically visit there but when I saw it showed your last visit there was 4 weeks ago I was starting to think I might never find out how things had turned out for you. 

    I also just wanted to continue to read more of your writings as you are a good writer that possesses a wealth of information, knowledge and wisdom.  I am very glad to see your writings again as I was beginning to get concerned that maybe they, whoever 'they' are, had scared you away from writing.  I do want to say though that I wouldn't blame you at all if you had stopped writing because I'm not sure if I would have continued to do so if I were faced with the circumstances of my living quarters being broken into because of my writing.  But I am very glad you have continued to write and make public your writings. 

    As for what you have already authored that is still on ATS, as far as I know, I believe I remember reading on their terms and conditions that they do not have exclusive rights to what is posted on there but rather the author of any post can reproduce their own works anywhere as they see fit.  The important thing is the work, not the publisher, and as such have you considered re-posting here your work that was originally posted on ATS?  I think if it were paper bound, it would amount to a multi-volume set!

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #4 on: July 04, 2011, 12:44:00 PM »

  • Thanks very much for a little background information about that thread and what later happened.  I, for one, latched onto it early that weekend and followed right along until the bitter end.  I had no way to personally contact you so I had to make do with one mysterious post on TASite saying you were silenced by TPTB until I found PTN.  Thanks again.

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 01:22:57 PM »

  • Thanks Quarky, first I do plan to transfer most of my major conspiracy threads over here. The original pieces at least. Many I have saved on my computer from when I first wrote and published them on ATS. My most important All Roads Lead to Rome I have published the opening piece here already in the articles section and will eventually start up a thread on it.

    The site isn’t quite a month old yet and most of that time on my end has been getting it up and running, functioning and modified so I haven’t had a chance to do as much of the posting or content adding I would like to as of yet.

    It’s coming though.

    The second thing that people are going to have to consider coming to terms with is we entering a new phase here in American life that is very reminiscent of early Nazi Germany. Certain groups have been targeted for persecution. This time it’s the Muslims and not the Jews. Next comes political dissidents. We are in the early stages of targeting political dissidents and much like Nazi Germany many people are going to be in denial about that.

    I believe we are going to see more and more of it in part thanks to Cass Sunstien and his plan to infiltrate conspiracy sites that is in fact already underway.

    While many people actually think this is going to be limited to simply disinformation posters and attacks online of posters posting alternative views, in fact they will and likely already have gone well beyond that.

    Thanks to the FISA (the Foreign Intelligence Service Agency Act) Act that many of the provisions for are so secret not even everyone in Congress that passed it know what’s in there, Foreign Intelligence Agencies can be utilized to operate on American Soil to do things that by law American Intelligence Agencies are not allowed to.

    This is likely what happened in my case, where a foreign intelligence likely was brought in to carry it all out.

    Thanks to the FISA act the American Government can still find out things here in America about Americans that there is no mechanism in our law that allows it but a mechanism that if Foreign Intelligence Agencies discover information about Americans in America that allows them to pass it along, giving the US Government plausible deniability in the process.

    In the immediate aftermath of the break in to my home and banning from ATS I took a few weeks to better assess and investigate the threat and do some soul searching about what to do next.

    The truth is history repeats itself and like in early Nazi Germany if we don’t nip these kinds of attempts to censor alternative views and political dissidents in the bud, well that bud it going to flower pretty rapidly into something that will become increasingly harder and harder to stop.

    The easy way out might work in the short run, but almost the entire German population that survived the war paid a heavy and ongoing price for years, for having not stopped the rise of the Nazi Regime and Agenda.

    They just like us, believed they had a God Given Destiny, and while they were winning that they would always keep winning, but when you can only accomplish things through violence, killing and intimidating people sooner or later no matter how good you are at as a nation, the rest of the world gangs up and decides to put an end to it.

    It happens again and again, both people within a nation falling for the ego appeal of we have a destiny we are making the world a better place, and then the rest of the nations finally getting together to put an end to the tyranny of it all.

    When that happens as it happened in Germany everyone suffers for years and years to come. Taking the easy way out is not really the best thing in the long run.

    So I for one am not going to do it, and accept what ever might happen as a consequence.

    I very much believe in the motto of “live free or die trying”.

    Those who would trade their liberties for security deserve neither and shall not have either.

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 01:27:58 PM »

  • Thanks SearchingforSantorini.

    I toyed around with the idea of making a follow up statement on YouTube but I decided to hold off at first, because I really had hoped and tried to work things out with ATS through contacting Bill Irvine privately.

    At first he led me to believe things could be worked out but as he began to investigate the plot on his own end and found it to be credible that pretty much changed to no way no how would he ever want me back on ATS.

    At that point I decided the best thing to do was to launch my own site as opposed to posting elsewhere or reinventing myself on ATS under a different user name.

    Ultimately I want to keep writing and sharing, and I truly believe the only way I am going to be able to do that moving forward without being censored is to do it on my own site.

    Thanks my friend.


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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 08:38:44 PM »

  • A funny thing happened on the way to this forum ...

    I spent all afternoon composing a Proto length post outlining the plethora of reasons which made Thomas's banning all but a certainty and foreseen months in advance.  Some had to do with the elements outlined above but most had to do with specific childish aspects, issues, and culture upon which ats is founded upon.  To the degree that any of it relates to the point of this thread, let us just say that Proto's banning was simply the latest in a long tradition of cutting down high profile members.  It wasn't the first and it won't be the last.

    Having said all of that, the reason I decided to scrap my original diatribe and replace it with this one has some relevancy.  I discovered a long time ago that relationships take many a form, and that one can through a multitude of emotions sustain a very real relationship with the very thing they are trying to sever from simply by being emotionally engaged in it.  For example, should a young man or lady 'dump' you, for reasons just or unjust, one can remain vexed, resentful, preoccupied, and generally affected by them even though they are no more.  That is as much of a relationship, though different in nature, than when the two were in each other's approval.

    So my advice here, as it has always been when banned members have decided to go off and start their own forum, is rather simple: The longer you/we keep discussing ats on this forum, the longer we are sustaining just as significant a relationship with ats as if we were posting there directly.  The more we speak of them, positively or negatively, the greater validity we give them and the more we undermine this forum's ability to stand on its own as opposed to a mere reactionary pendulum of ats generated causality.  A community creates its own culture, its own foundation, and these seeds are being planted as we speak.  I have seen it way too many times where despite their best efforts, emerging forum owners cannot get past their 'feelings' for ats, the site attracts all the ats bashers, and thus becomes just another ats bashing site.  Most never recover from that original seed of resentment, their owners left to wonder 'how and where did we go wrong.'

    Don't get me wrong, this isn't meant to minimize the gravity of what transpired to Thomas.  In fact it is to achieve precisely the opposite effect.  Namely, Thomas having already suffered what he has, the last thing I would wish upon him is to allow whomever was behind it, to indirectly further affect his life by Thomas allowing that feeling to persist to the degree that it overtakes and corrupts the very flower that has budded as a result.

    The sequence of events in Proto's life that has brought us here is surely filled with injustice, yet we are here, and it would be a shame to remain attached to the very things which harm us.

    Let us move on from the past.

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    « Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 09:17:18 PM »


  • Great information here Proto !

    I can attest to the entire incident, as I was active on the Charmed Life thread.

    The fact that ATS, specifically, Bill Irvine, displayed the usual paranoid over-reactive panic stricken responses to what was wrongly viewed as a “hoax”, which seems to be the norm for certain types of “Business Class” people.

    The “hoax” derived from the sidebar posts cleverly manipulated by the perpetrator(s) clearly was NOT the intension of the OP.  As the desperate attempts of the derailleurs and forum gangs to discredit Proto were not successful early on as intended, a wild attack made by a forum moderator who I will not name here (not my place to do so) was posted for a few short minutes before he revised the post and edited away what he obviously realized to be yet another insane over-reaction.  I was lucky enough to have actually seen the original unedited post, as was at least one other ATS member that will remain anonymous as well as it is not my place to “name names” in this case.  I will however state that the other “witness” is not a member here on PPTnet as of this writing, unless of course, that person is here and using a different name.

    The content of the original post (by the Mod) contained some IP Addresses and a link to a website for a city in Florida that has pictures that proto used in the OP to describe the “rendezvous” place, as well as a very explicit name for Proto in an attempt to discredit him. My opinion is that the perpetrator Tristar selected that very location because of the “target’s” familiarity with that area. Tristar was probably in “league” with some people at ATS, and in frustration, passed along the website for publication as well as the IP Addresses that were claimed to be from Indiana, not Florida, all suggesting that Proto was actually living in Indiana !!!!  My immediate “intuition” told me that it was at least possible that Proto’s computer had been compromised and loaded with some program that was re-directing his IP (that IS possible to do by the way).  My second “intuition” was that the Mod’s gut over-reaction was to just make up that story of Proto being somewhere else, thus presenting the idea in reader’s minds that Proto Himself was a “hoax”!  I actually posted these ideas after the Mod edited his post as well as questioning the Mod’s motives !  I think part of my responses were censored at that point, as it seemed that other Mods were monitoring the thread and were very quick to respond to my “selection” of choice words using the “*” char to hide censored wording! I remember being a tiny bit explicit that day! The other member who was witness to the original post concurred that a re-direction was taking place!  If I remember correctly, it was shortly afterwards that the “sidebar” attack started, probably in reaction to the failed attempt to discredit Proto with a phony location.

    After the banning, many members immediately began posting (Appropriately SO!) on “All Roads Lead to Rome” as to what may have happened (started May 15, p196). Some discussion took place before ATS “closed” the thread, citing discussion of banned members was forbidden!  The thread was re-opened later due to many complaints from members, myself included, but of course, they censored all posts referring to Proto’s ban.  Other threads were also started and soon closed and completely deleted as well!  ATS left no stone unturned in this. All Roads definitely were Leading to Rome THAT day!

    After the “ban”, I began to contact other members by giving them my own email, as many were u2u’ing me for answers to this outrage!  One member in particular forwarded my email address to Proto and He contacted me from there. That member as well as others have since joined this forum!

    I can further attest to Proto’s genuine character by saying I was led to ATS in the first place because of the “All Roads Lead to Rome” theme.  I had discovered Thomas’s essay (in pdf format) on another website and after further research, discovered the thread on ATS and realized it had to be from the same author.  I lurked around for a few months, and then finally joined.

    Wheew….! That was tough. I know I’m not the best writer in the world, more of a reader-commenter.

    Well, that’s my side of this story…..thanks for listening.


    By the way Proto, have you ever even been to Indiana ?

    A video from 1970 for your pleasure!
    R. Dean Taylor - Indiana Wants Me (TOTP 29-04-1971)



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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 09:46:23 PM »

  • I think today of all days was a good day to declare your own "Independence" !

    Independence Day 2011 .......

    let's hope TPTB don't try to "erase" your declaration in the future !



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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 11:29:07 PM »

  • Tis some really great advice stereo typed especially the relationship angle.

    One of the biggest reasons I posted this now is some of the private messages from some of our most recent members who really weren't aware of the hows and why's of my banning.

    Yet I think it's important to also consider my banning from ATS to me was simply the proverbial case of adding insult to injury.

    The injury in this case being the very real occurence of my house being broken into and my computer tampered with.

    The insult was simply the banning of me for the public disclosure of it on ATS.

    In other words there is something for bigger and potentially much more troubling in the events that led up to being banned, that make being banned seem pretty small and insignificant in comparison.

    Honestly it's not something I can think too many people could relate to, while a lot of people have been banned from ATS for good reasons and bad, to my knowledge none of them suffered first being targeted by an organization that appears to opperate all over the internet in a well planned, executed and financed plot to break in their homes, tamper with their computers and rattle their chains.

    For people not familiar with what happened to me, and even some who are, putting it in the greater context which it really does need to be placed in to fully understand isn't really easy because it is so unusual, but it becomes vital in not stereo typing the events as just another banning from ATS.

    That a group went to the time and trouble and expense to track me down in the real world, and target me in such a fashion is the real story and the important one.

    That ATS banned me for disclosing it on their site is really just a side bar to that much larger and more important event surrounding the break in itself.

    My real problem is not with ATS my real problem is with who targeted me as a result of posting on ATS and what I posted.

    That story is one that people ought to hear, and in my humble opinion it shouldn't be viewed as simply an ATS thing because it's truly not just an ATS thing.

    Being banned from ATS in the scheme of things is fairly insignificant, having a shadowy international oragnization after you for what you write and share on line though is.

    Confusing the two as one in the same is probably not a good idea.

    I hear what you are saying but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water on this one please.

    Thanks!


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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 11:49:34 PM »

  • Some of the sharks of the site (well most of them) were out in force on the thread xuenchen and when it comes to the Moderator who posted my IP there were quite a few people following along on the thread at the time. As I recall they removed well over a half a dozen posts from that many different members who were outraged by it.

    The good news is that ATS is in my rearview mirror and no longer a part of my life.

    The not so good news is I am not so sure if I have managed to leave the unsavory ellements that invaded my private and personal world and life as a result of my time spent on ATS behind me.

    That's a story I would like to hope, but can't be sure is over and done with, and one of much greater concern to me personally.

    Believe me when I say it was not fun having to make that kind of disclosure of events, knowing full well it would probably engender some of the reactions and skepticism and opportunism that it did.

    I felt it would have been wrong not to, people deserved to know, and hear it and hear it from me.

    Whether they choose or want to believe it is another thing entirely but whether they do or don't it's kind of like being a lawyer for someone accused of a capitol crime.

    When your client gets sentenced to death, you feel bad that you lost the case, but you aren't the one who's going to be put to death.

    The sad thing is because of the way some of the opportunists, skeptics, and indeed the site itself approached that thread and behaved in it, I don't think some of them have a clue or the ability to see the much bigger picture and what it might end up meaning for them in time.

    I hope my troubles with this oragnization are over, but the truth is ATS is not Las Vegas, what happens on ATS or as a result of ATS doesn't necessarily or always stay on ATS.

    The real issue here is not what ATS did or didn't do, but who is really behind the break in of my home and tampering with my computer.

    Hopefully people will be able to keep that in a proper perspective and not confuse a questionably run infotainment site with the real issue at play.

    That is that it really does appear that certain key internet personalities who are best classified as political dissidents and conspiracy theorists where the individual has reached a noteworthy and notable audience, are being targeted in the real world off line as a reslut.

     


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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #12 on: July 04, 2011, 11:53:59 PM »

  • Actually being banned from ats is the best thing that could happen to you, for in time it will be clear that they did you a favor by doing so.  The parallel circumstances outlined in your OP, though connected to ats, are indeed a separate issue, which I by no means wish to suggest should be discarded as insignificant.

    The metaphor of throwing out the baby with the bathwater seems apt enough but it minimizes the issue.  It is a case of a choice needing be made, for what I guarantee you will happen, because of this thread, is that you will be stuck talking about how your ex wife wronged you years after you've stopped caring and devoid of any wish to discuss it further.  For people are drawn to drama, and drama draws people.

    Like I said, all this has played out before me before.  My personal hope for your forum is that it will in due course be inhabited with thousands of members who know not of you from ats but who are here because of the content you and others are expressing.  After all, not many of us knew you before ats and it didn't hurt your growth there one bit.  Nor will it here for your force of intellect and thought will inevitably yield the same result.

    Listen, I realize the 'breakup' is recent, and I also understand that your mentioning of ats is restricted to its relevance to the much more important set of events that unfolded, but you also must know that the ripples are uncontrollable once the pebble has been dropped, and will seldom be confined to one's intent.

    Anyhoot, it's just my take and I defer to your judgment.  But for my part this is the last time I will speak of ats on your forum, one day you might indeed thank me for it.  Or not.   8)

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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #13 on: July 05, 2011, 12:01:20 AM »

  • Thanks for the info, Mr. Henley. Interesting stuff.

    But really, I'm still not quite getting it. I mean, there's still plenty about this case that begs further questioning. Just how was your computer "tampered with"? Who are "they"? And of course, why did they feel compelled to do this? I mean, are you really considered that much of a threat?
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    Re: About Living a Charmed Life
    « Reply #14 on: July 05, 2011, 01:01:28 AM »

  • Thanks for the info, Mr. Henley. Interesting stuff.

    But really, I'm still not quite getting it. I mean, there's still plenty about this case that begs further questioning. Just how was your computer "tampered with"? Who are "they"? And of course, why did they feel compelled to do this? I mean, are you really considered that much of a threat?

    My computer was accessed and a total of three private networks set up and iSCSI interface set up so that my computer and all it's drives could be accessed remotely with out me knowing it.

    As far as who they are, I truly don't know, I do know that what they accomplished took some serious preplanning, skills, and money to pull of, so they are for lack of more definitive answers a professional group of some type, most likely associated with an intelligence agency or a military, that don't want me to know exactly who they are. At least not in any provable way.

    Why they did it was for the purpose of running a pyschological operation against me, possibly to just intimidate me or discredit me and possibly to isolate and recruit me.

    Whether they view me as a threat or a talent or merely someone who had gotten to be a nuisance that was better nipped in the bud are all just speculative things.

    Bottom line it will take some serious time and money to get to the bottom of who they are, these are professionals who are looking to remain anonymous and when dealing with people who know how to cover their tracks to that end investigating them becomes much more difficult.

    My best and most realistic hope of discovering more about them is to keep engaging in the type of behavior that drew them out in the first place.

    In other words to invite their continued wrath hoping that the next time if there is a next time I can get a better bead on just who they are.

    No one would like full answers more than I would, but I think if you found your self in the same situation you would discover getting to them is easier wished for than done.

    Simply asking the questions to ask them, that is to say, not having the time or money to go out and track down the leads, is by and large simply a distraction and that's one of main reasons and objectives in running a psychological operation against someone, to get them distracted by the drama of it.

    To essentially keep them from doing what they would normally be doing as a result.

    For the time being there is little for me to go on except a couple of annonymous internet accounts.

    My best bet at finding more is waiting to see if they make another move beyond the two that they have made.

    In both cases I called their bluffs and have raised them.

    Whether they were all in with those plays or there is more to come is something I can only wait to find out.

    Thanks.


     


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